THE WEAPONS
[AND, HERE MAY BE A GOOD PLACE TO WARN THE SENSITIVE OF SOME GRAPHIC PHOTOS POSTED BELOW, FURTHER ALONG IN TODAY'S ENTRY.]
Of all the many questions in Americans' minds about the shootings in San Bernardino on Wednesday, December 2, whether or not it was being driven by "radicalization" of the American-born Farook and his Pakistani wife , if they did have a connection to the 'Islamic State' (ISIS), may be #1, but it seems the media wants to focus once again on those big bad guns...
Before we get to what we're being told, let's have a go at what many of us are wishing we knew...
Before we get to what we're being told, let's have a go at what many of us are wishing we knew...
America may have just experienced its first ISIS related attack, since Tashfeen Malik allegedly had sworn allegiance to ISIS.
IF SO, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE SUPER-SNOOPS AT THE NSA DID NOT PICK UP ON ANY SIGNS PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING?
With the VAST capabilities of our National Security Agency (NSA), why is it they weren't picking up on several tell-tale signals from this couple, such as...
~ His recent trips to Saudi Arabia and then Pakistan.
{SEE: "He was also said to be an American citizen who had recently traveled to other countries, including Pakistan."}
~ Added to his purchase of weapons.
IF SO, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE SUPER-SNOOPS AT THE NSA DID NOT PICK UP ON ANY SIGNS PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING?
With the VAST capabilities of our National Security Agency (NSA), why is it they weren't picking up on several tell-tale signals from this couple, such as...
~ His recent trips to Saudi Arabia and then Pakistan.
{SEE: "He was also said to be an American citizen who had recently traveled to other countries, including Pakistan."}
~ Added to his purchase of weapons.
~Added to his marriage to a woman who apparently was connecting to ISIS websites.
~Added to the purchases of ALL THAT bomb-making equipment and ammunition.
DID AN ARGUMENT AT THE PARTY SET FAROOK OFF?
Syed Farook had attended the holiday party and was said to have left after becoming angry...angry at whom and why was he angry are unanswered questions as well.
ONE WOULD THINK THE MAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM WHO REPORTED THE INCIDENT MIGHT KNOW, THE MAN WHOSE LIFE WAS SAVED BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE BATHROOM WHEN FAROOK RETURNED.
{ "Baccari, who was sitting at the same table as Farook, said employees at the holiday party were taking a break before snapping group photos when Farook suddenly disappeared...The shooting lasted about five minutes, he said"}
SINCE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING BUT NOT IN THAT CONFERENCE ROOM REPORTED THE FIRST SHOTS BY CALLING 911, THAT IS QUITE A LENGTHY RESPONSE TIME...NOT FOR A RURAL AREA, BUT FOR A SUBURB?
~Added to the purchases of ALL THAT bomb-making equipment and ammunition.
DID AN ARGUMENT AT THE PARTY SET FAROOK OFF?
Syed Farook had attended the holiday party and was said to have left after becoming angry...angry at whom and why was he angry are unanswered questions as well.
ONE WOULD THINK THE MAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM WHO REPORTED THE INCIDENT MIGHT KNOW, THE MAN WHOSE LIFE WAS SAVED BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE BATHROOM WHEN FAROOK RETURNED.
{ "Baccari, who was sitting at the same table as Farook, said employees at the holiday party were taking a break before snapping group photos when Farook suddenly disappeared...The shooting lasted about five minutes, he said"}
SINCE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING BUT NOT IN THAT CONFERENCE ROOM REPORTED THE FIRST SHOTS BY CALLING 911, THAT IS QUITE A LENGTHY RESPONSE TIME...NOT FOR A RURAL AREA, BUT FOR A SUBURB?
Why did Farook go home, enlist his wife to go back to the center with him, and why did they both "dress up" for the attack (Where and when did they buy what the press describes as "tactical clothing"?) and then just slowly drive away after the shooting, as eyewitnesses reported, but then were found leaving their home again 5 hours later by police?
{SEE: "Inside the Redlands home, where the couple was spotted leaving on Wednesday, leading to a pursuit and the eventual shootout..."}
THEY HAD 5 HOURS TO MAKE A GETAWAY...DID THEY JUST WANT TO BE CAUGHT?
WOULDN'T THEY HAVE DESTROYED EVIDENCE, REMOVED THINGS FROM THE APARTMENT BEFORE THEY LEFT FOR THE CENTER TO SHOOT PEOPLE?
WOULDN'T THEY HAVE IMAGINED THEY'D BE CONFRONTED DURING THE SHOOTING BY POLICE AND NEVER MAKE IT HOME AGAIN?
WHY DID THEY GO BACK TO THE REDLANDS APARTMENT?
BTW, police allowed the owner of that apartment building to open up the Farook's home to sightseers, to the public yesterday, Friday, and in the video of that, the owner sounds like some carnival 'hawker', "Step right up, see where the killers lived" sort of thing.
"A man appeared from inside on the threshold, spoke briefly to those in the media closest to the door, and then stepped aside.
WHAT WAS THAT GUY DOING IN A NAILED-SHUT APARTMENT?
WHAT WAS THAT GUY DOING IN A NAILED-SHUT APARTMENT?
WE CAN CLEARLY SEE THE REPORTERS PRYING THE PLYWOOD OFF THE FRONT DOOR, AND THEN THIS GUY MEETS THEN FROM INSIDE?
"The owner of the house... express{ed} bafflement as to the motives of the renters who had seemed like a normal young family, and resignation as to the media circus. “I did not expect any of this,” Doyle Miller said.
Miller said that law enforcement contacted him on Thursday night to say their investigation was complete and he could enter the property. He arrived on Friday morning to assess the damage caused by officers when they searched the home, fearing that it was booby-trapped.
“I opened the door,” Miller said. “Once you open the door … they (reporters and gawkers) kind of forced their way in.”
“I opened the door,” Miller said. “Once you open the door … they (reporters and gawkers) kind of forced their way in.”
VIDEO SHOWS HE MET PRYING REPORTERS FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE THERE TO WITNESS WHAT WAS DONE INSIDE.
HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE THERE TO WITNESS WHAT WAS DONE INSIDE.
THE NIGHTLY NBC NEWS TONIGHT (SATURDAY) REPORTED THAT THE FAMILY OF FAROOK WAS ALLOWED INTO THE APARTMENT TODAY...WONDER IF THERE WAS ANYTHING LEFT FOR THEM TO REMOVE?
Once the way was clear, a rush of reporters, television cameramen and photographers rushed in like an unstoppable human tide, trampling through the rooms.
GHOULISH OF SIGHTSEERS...AND REPORTERS ALIKE.
And still, Mainstream media is focused on the guns...Fine.
Answer this then, MSM...Why didn't his purchase of even TWO apparently "legally" acquired weapons and all that ammo ring anybody's bell?
Today, Saturday, December 5, 2015, the story on the weapons changed again...No, Farook did NOT buy the rifles, but a FRIEND did.
Read the following carefully...found Dec 3:
"While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF.
And still, Mainstream media is focused on the guns...Fine.
Answer this then, MSM...Why didn't his purchase of even TWO apparently "legally" acquired weapons and all that ammo ring anybody's bell?
Today, Saturday, December 5, 2015, the story on the weapons changed again...No, Farook did NOT buy the rifles, but a FRIEND did.
Read the following carefully...found Dec 3:
"While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF.
Ms. Davis said authorities were working to determine who purchased the rifles, and whether they were connected to Mr. Farook. Ms. Davis said one handgun was made by Llama and the other was made by Springfield Armory.
The models of the handguns weren't specified. California approves the sale and use of certain handguns. Ms. Davis said the handguns were purchased by Mr. Farook.
The two semiautomatic rifles were versions of the popular AR-15 model, according to San Bernardino officials. One was made by DPMS Inc., and the other by Smith & Wesson."Davis says the rifles were purchased LEGALLY, then she says they don't know WHO purchased them?
How the bloody hell can THAT be?
If she knows they were LEGAL purchases she'd HAVE to know WHO purchased them!
A LEGAL PURCHASE GIVES THE NAME OF THE BUYER, WHO "SIGNS ON THE DOTTED LINE" AND PRESENTS I.D.!
They knew Farook had bought the pistols but couldn't say who bought the rifles?
THAT MAKES NO SENSE!
NEITHER DOES ANYONE SAY HOW FAROOK OR MALIK HAD THE TRAINING, THE ABILITY TO MODIFY WEAPONS.
HE WAS A HEALTH INSPECTOR, SHE WAS A PHARMACIST...DO THEY TEACH WEAPONS MODIFICATION IN COLLEGE THESE DAYS?
DID SOMEONE ELSE, MAYBE ANOTHER "RADICALIZED" INDIVIDUAL DO THE MODIFICATIONS?
THE SUV DID NOT BELONG TO FAROOK OR MALIK.
"Five photos, released Thursday, showed not only the suspects’ bullet-riddled SUV, but a deputy's vehicle that was also shot, a bag of ammunition, and two handguns and two additional firearms."
IT WAS A RENTED VEHICLE, WITH UTAH TAGS ON IT AND THEY'D RENTED IT JUST A FEW DAYS PRIOR.
WE ARE NOT TOLD WHO RENTED IT.
INITIALLY, THE POLICE REPORTED AN ABANDONED SUV...ABANDONED?
"Report indicates abandoned SUV found in #SanBernardino." (Tweet from Fox News, 3:48pm)
THEN THERE'S THE WAY POLICE SAID QUITE QUICKLY THAT THEY FOUND AND REMOVED SEVERAL POSSIBLE BOMBS AT THE CENTER.
IF FAROOK WAS THERE BRIEFLY, LEFT SUDDENLY, RETURNED SOON AFTER AND, AS EYEWITNESSES HAVE SAID, THE PAIR LEFT THE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SHOOTING, WHO PLACED THE "EXPLOSIVE DEVICES, AND WHEN?
IS THERE ANOTHER ACCOMPLICE?
WHO PLANTED THE 'BOMBS'?
WHEN?
IS THERE ANOTHER ACCOMPLICE, PERIOD?
EYE WITNESSES INITIALLY REPORTED 3 SHOOTERS, THEN OTHERS SAW TWO PEOPLE FLEEING THE SUV, BUT MALIK WAS KILLED INSIDE THAT VEHICLE, SO WHO WAS THE OTHER RUNNER AND WHERE IS THAT PERSON NOW?
("Witness Steve Esquivel said he heard sirens blaring then "pop pop pop, you wouldn't believe how long it lasted." He saw 2 suspects running."
"POLICE NOW SAY THEY DETAINED A THIRD PERSON AND AT 5:56 PM, THAT PERSON WAS IDENTIFIED AS A MALE."
ONE OFFICER WAS INITIALLY REPORTED SHOT AFTER THE 2 SUSPECTS WERE KILLED, BUT TWO WERE LATER REPORTED WOUNDED.
"One San Bernardino police officer was transported
to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries,
Cervantes said. "
RESIDENTS OF THE STREET WHERE THE SHOOTOUT TOOK PLACE SAID THERE WAS CROSSFIRE, THAT BULLETS HIT THEIR HOME.
WAS EITHER OFFICER THE VICTIM OF "FRIENDLY FIRE"?
HERE IS HOW IT UNFOLDED, CHANGED AFTER INITIAL REPORTS PRESENTED IN THE MEDIA:
DECEMBER 2, 2015 2:47 PM, Mark Green, by live blog as the day unfolded...reported and reproduced on the FOX network, FOX 13...
The live blogger's updates will be given as "MG" and others identified by name.
The time stamps have me perplexed, maybe we're seeing 3 different time zones reporting on this?
ALL the Local News sources SHOULD be Pacific Standard Time.
I don't know how some of MG's posts are so scrambled, but on we go...
2:47pm, by MG, (CNN) – Witnesses told police they saw three men with long guns, a law enforcement source told CNN. The source said the suspects got into a black SUV and drove away.
Also 2:47pm, MG, (CNN) – The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN.
3:33 pm, MG, FOX News says KTLA is reporting that police with guns drawn entered a hospital where several victims of the shooting were taken to check out some kind of report that was called in.
WHOM WERE THEY DRAWING GUNS TO CONFRONT AT THE HOSPITAL?
THE MISSING THIRD SHOOTER?
3:33pm, MG, Police on the suspects: “We have no idea where they might be.”
BUT THEY HAD ALREADY OBTAINED A WARRANT FOR THE REDLANDS HOME.
3:49 pm, MG, Police have not yet recovered evidence from the scene, but it is expected once shell casings are recovered they will be able to determine what caliber of weapons were used.
WHEN DID NOT GATHERING EVIDENCE ALMOST 4 HOURS AFTER SUCH AN EVENT BECOME THE NORM?
THE NEWS MEDIA HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY OF PIPE BOMBS, ETC, FOUND THERE.
THEY OBVIOUSLY HAD GATHERED THOSE.
"San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said that the shooting spree had clearly been planned in advance and that the suspects left several explosive devices, which appeared to be pipe bombs, at the scene of the massacre."
3:57 pm, MG, FOX News reports the facility in San Bernardino where the shooting occurred often held mass shooting drills, and several witnesses reported they initially thought Wednesday’s shooting was another such drill.
4:12 pm, MG, KTLA reports there is some kind of altercation and a police pursuit happening now, but it is not clear if that incident is related to the earlier mass shooting or not.
Another Tweet from Fox, 5:12 pm, Report: Police in pursuit of suspect vehicle. And Fox tweeted at 5:16 pm, Police in pursuit of suspects; shots fired. Time-stamped as 4:20 pm??? {MG MUST HAVE BEEN BLOGGING IN MOUNTAIN TIME? MAYBE?}
MG, The live helicopter feed from KTLA appeared to show a person on the ground with blood around them after reports of shots fired and a large police presence. (FOR MY MANY NON-AMERICAN READERS, SOME WHO MAY NOT KNOW, AMERICA IS DIVIDED INTO 6 TIME ZONES AND SOME MAY WONDER AT WHY I AM CONFUSED BY THOSE TIME STAMPS:)
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEEN ALL REPORTS, BLOGS, WHATEVER USE PACIFIC STANDARD TIME, THE TIMEZONE FOR SAN BERNARDINO.
BACK TO THE LIVE BLOGGER, MG.
4:21 pm???, MG, CNN) — CNN affiliate KABC showed images of an apparent police raid in a residential neighborhood on Wednesday. It was unclear whether the operation was tied to a shooting earlier in the day in San Bernardino, California. The images showed a black SUV and a person on the ground.
4:25 pm, MG, Police are reporting that in regard to the response to the shots fired around 4 p.m., that it appears a suspect is down and all officers are OK.
4:25 pm, KABC, San Bernardino, As many as 3 suspects still on the loose.
{https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/672194216190197760/photo/1Time-stamped 3:21pm??? That's a local station.}
5:24 pm, KTLA NEWS, 1 suspect may be down at area where authorities surround black SUV in San Bernardino
5:39pm,MG, That SUV is riddled with bullet holes. KTLA reports one suspect was down on the street nearby, a second suspect was down inside the SUV and there may be a third suspect in custody nearby.
4:43pm, MG, KTLA is reporting that police surrounding that SUV have spotted a suspect with a weapon strapped to him inside that SUV.
<END QUOTES FROM MG>
We will leave MG and FOX there...the rest is "mopping-up", the gun battle was over, the two KNOWN suspects were dead.
MANY NEWS AGENCIES WERE FED INFORMATION FROM FAROOK'S FAMILY MEMBER BY A MAN WITH A GROUP CALLED "CAIR".
MANY NEWS AGENCIES WERE FED INFORMATION FROM FAROOK'S FAMILY MEMBER BY A MAN WITH A GROUP CALLED "CAIR".
"Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said,
"We don't know the motives. Is it work, race-related, is it mental illness, is it extreme ideology? At this point, it's really unknown to us and at this point it's too soon to speculate,"
CAIR IS LISTED AS A TERRORIST GROUP BY THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATE .
"CAIR is connected to Hamas:
Hamas, designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. and many other governments, indirectly created CAIR and the two groups remain tight.
Examples: In 1994, CAIR head Nihad Awad publicly declared his support for Hamas; the Holy Land Foundation (HLF), a Hamas front group, contributed $5,000 to CAIR;
in turn, CAIR exploited the 9/11 attacks to raise money for HLF; and, this past August, demonstrators at a CAIR-sponsored rally in Florida proclaimed “We are Hamas!”
It is in trouble with the law: Federal prosecutors in 2007 named CAIR (along with two other Islamic organizations) as “unindicted co-conspirators and/or joint venturers” in a criminal conspiracy to support Hamas financially. In 2008, the FBI ended contacts with CAIR because of concern about its continuing terrorist ties.
CAIR ALSO WENT ON RECORD YESTERDAY BLAMING AMERICA FOR TERRORIST ATTACKS.
“Muslim leader from CAIR tells CNN America bears some blame for terror attacks,” FoxNews.com, December 04, 2015:
"America bears some of the blame for the bloody wave of Islamic extremism that has brought terrorism to San Bernardino, Paris and locations around the world, according to a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
In a Friday CNN interview, Hussam Ayloush, of the group’s Los Angeles chapter, said American foreign policy has helped fuel the rage that drives Muslim radicals to kill in the name of their faith.
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the west, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush told “New Day” host Chris Cuomo..."
I FEEL HIS LACK OF CONCERN FOR OUR DEAD, DO YOU?
LOOK HOW QUICKLY CAIR HOOKED UP WITH THE FAMILIES OF THE TWO SHOOTERS!I FEEL HIS LACK OF CONCERN FOR OUR DEAD, DO YOU?
RECORD TIME, YES?
ONWARD...
WHAT ARE THESE "ASSAULT WEAPONS" WE SEE SO MANY, MANY PHOTOS OF AFTER A 'MASS SHOOTING EVENT' REALLY?
MORE ON THIS A BIT LATER...
Photos from the scene of the officer-involved shooting. Weapons & ammunition carried by the suspects.
SEE: http://ktla.com/2015/12/04/images-show-vast-supply-of-weapons-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-suspects-had/
WARNING FOR SENSITIVE READERS: A FEW PHOTOS THAT FOLLOW MAY BE DEEMED "GRAPHIC IN NATURE".
The images came from the scene of a shootout between Syed Farook, 28, his wife Tashfeen Malik, 27, and 23 law enforcement officials from seven different agencies.
IS THIS A PHOTO OF MALIK?
I'M INCLINED TO THINK IT IS, GIVEN THE OTHER BODY SHOWN WORE WHITE-SOLED SNEAKERS AND LONG PANTS.
[THE SAME IMAGE AS ABOVE FROM http://www.msfanpage.link/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/farook.jpg WOULD NOT UPLOAD. MAYBE IT WAS THE 'INSENSITIVE' CAPTION?]
Police do not have a motive for the shootings, which ended with a gun battle on a San Bernardino street that left 28-year-old Syed Rizwan Farook and 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik dead.
Authorities say they were the only two shooters, and relatives said the two were married.
Investigators have not ruled out a link with terrorism and are also looking into the possibility that a workplace dispute triggered the massacre at a social services center for the disabled.
Investigators have not ruled out a link with terrorism and are also looking into the possibility that a workplace dispute triggered the massacre at a social services center for the disabled.
Seventy-six rounds were fired from Farook and Malik during the gun battle, but the two had more than 1,400 .223-caliber rounds and over 200 9 mm rounds on them or inside their SUV at the time.
The suspects died at the scene, and two officers were injured but expected to survive.
Syed Farook, born in the United States, worked as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County, inspecting restaurants for health violations, according to authorities and a website that tracks public employees. As part of his job, he also inspected public pools at locations including apartment and senior housing complexes and country clubs. Records show him performing these duties as recently as July.
On Wednesday, he attended the annual holiday gathering for employees of his department, but then left, returning later with weaponry and Malik.
I WONDER WHY!
AS A 'FUNDAMENTALIST' MUSLIM, WHY WOULD HE?
AS A 'FUNDAMENTALIST' MUSLIM, WHY WOULD HE?
The couple were married for two years and have a six-month-old baby girl, Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of CAIR, told Reuters.
The couple left the baby with Farook's mother in the nearby city of Redlands early on Wednesday morning, Ayloush said, relaying information he got from the brother-in-law of Farook. They told her they were going to attend a doctor's appointment for the wife.
[PRIOR NEWS ARTICLES STATED DENTIST APPOINTMENT.]
Burguan said that police investigating the shooting went to a house in Redlands on Wednesday afternoon, and saw the couple take off in a black SUV. Police pursued the car to San Bernardino, where the gun battle ensued that left Farook and Malik dead.
Farook's family was originally from South Asia, while Malik was from Pakistan and had lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to the United States, Ayloush said. Farook had an older brother, he added, who had served in the U.S. military.
[SOUTH ASIA? WHERE IN SOUTH ASIA? I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALSO FROM PAKISTAN? BRIEFLY, IT WAS REPORTED THE PARENTS WERE AFGHAN IMMIGRANTS.]
In 2006, Rafia Farook, who records indicate is Farook's mother, filed in a Riverside court for divorce from her husband, also named Syed Farook.
She enumerated multiple instances of domestic abuse in the legal filing, and said her husband "threatens to kill himself on a daily basis."
During one incident, she said in a court filing, her son came between them "to save me."
She enumerated multiple instances of domestic abuse in the legal filing, and said her husband "threatens to kill himself on a daily basis."
During one incident, she said in a court filing, her son came between them "to save me."
AND THAT'S THE ROUNDUP ON THE "NEWS" AS OF TODAY, CADETS. STAY TUNED FOR "NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE, PART 3" IN TOMORROW'S HEADLINES.
MAYBE MORE ON THOSE ASSAULT WEAPONS?
BUT THE CRY WENT UP THROUGHOUT THE LAND, "BAN ALL GUNS AND THIS WILL STOP!"
HARRY GREED, I MEAN REID, WAS READY TO CRAM GUN CONTROL DOWN SOME GOP THROATS UP ON THE HILL...FROM TWITTER ...
MAYBE MORE ON THOSE ASSAULT WEAPONS?
BUT THE CRY WENT UP THROUGHOUT THE LAND, "BAN ALL GUNS AND THIS WILL STOP!"
HARRY GREED, I MEAN REID, WAS READY TO CRAM GUN CONTROL DOWN SOME GOP THROATS UP ON THE HILL...FROM TWITTER ...
We're going to force the Senate to vote today on amendments that do something to stop gun violence.
GOOD LUCK ON THAT, HARRY.
DOES THAT MEAN ARMED SECURITY WILL NO LONGER GUARD ALL YOU CONGRESSMEN?
WILL THE SECRET SERVICE DISARM, HHS, DEA. ATF, FBI?
POLICE?
ANYBODY BESIDES US AVERAGE CITIZENS?
I DIDN'T THINK SO.
.223 CALIBER AMMUNITION IS A COMMON CALIBER FOR DEER RIFLES, HUNTING RIFLES.
The .223 Remington is one of the most common rifle cartridges in use in the United States.
IS SUCH A WEAPON, A DEER RIFLE, AN "ASSAULT" WEAPON?
NO MORE SO THAN A SHOTGUN IS.
I'M SURE GAME ANIMALS FEEL ASSAULTED BY THEM.
WHAT IS AN "ASSAULT WEAPON"?
WOULD THE INTRUDER WHOM MY FAVORITE GREAT-AUNT 'ASSAULTED" WITH A MEDIUM-SIZED IRON SKILLET IN HER RURAL KITCHEN CONSIDER THAT AN "ASSAULT WEAPON"?
HE SURELY DID!
THE LITTLE CORAL SNAKE WHICH APPROACHED 2 OF MY CHILDREN IN THE YARD ONE DAY LONG AGO AND WHICH I "ASSAULTED" WITH A LEAF RAKE, MIGHT JUST HAVE SEEN THAT RAKE AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON....BUT HE'S DEAD.
SEE, THIS IS OF GREAT CONCERN...WHEN CONGRESS PASSES A LAW BANNING "ASSAULT WEAPONS", WE WILL LOSE A LOT OF EVERYDAY THINGS WE DON'T CONSIDER ASSAULT WEAPONS.
THAT IS TOO SWEEPING A GENERALITY, IT CAN BE "LEGALLY INTERPRETED" TO MEAN A SKILLET.
The rifles used in the San Bernardino mass shooting were illegal under California law because they were modified and violated the state’s ban on assault weapons, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives determined on Thursday.
Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, the suspects in the Wednesday shooting that left 14 people dead and 21 wounded, were armed with four guns. They carried two .223-caliber semiautomatic weapons and two 9mm semiautomatic pistols, according to San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan.
The two semiautomatic rifles were versions of the popular AR-15 model, according to San Bernardino officials. One was made by DPMS Inc., and the other by Smith & Wesson.
While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF.
Those alterations made the weapons unlawful under California’s ban on assault weapons, which bans guns with magazines that can detach for quick reloading.
The state legally allows the sale and ownership of assault weapons that have fixed magazines.
Since the shooting at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school, the media have focused intensely on the potential for a new, so-called assault weapons ban.
Since the shooting at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school, the media have focused intensely on the potential for a new, so-called assault weapons ban.
But gun rights backers insist that such a ban is already in place. In fact, they argue, "assault weapons" is a wholly misleading and politically motivated term that gun control advocates have successfully convinced the mainstream media to use as a blanket term.
The term "assault rifle" has long been used to describe fully automatic guns used by the military -- you pull the trigger once, and the gun fires a barrage of bullets. These weapons are technically available to the public, but one must pay a steep price and go through a tough application process to obtain one, so there are relatively few on the market.
Over the past 20-plus years, though, the term "assault weapon" has increasingly been used to describe semiautomatic rifles -- i.e. the weapon automatically reloads after each bullet is fired, but you need to pull the trigger for each bullet.
These weapons are much more prevalent among the American public...
These weapons are much more prevalent among the American public...
What separated "assault weapons" from other semi-automatic guns in the now-lapsed 1994 assault weapons ban was whether they had two or more so-called "military style" features... a place to affix a bayonet, a pistol grip, a 'thumbhole' stock or telescoping stock, a flash suppressor, and a grenade or flare launcher.
ALL THAT HAS CHANGED AND EVERYTHING THAT FIRES A BULLET HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS AN "ASSAULT WEAPON".
AMERICAN MEDIA'S IGNORANCE CERTAINLY DOES SHOW!
OR ELSE THEY'RE MISREPORTING LIKE GOOD LITTLE PUPPETS?
ONE FINAL PHOTO TAKEN FROM A VIDEO THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS A CNN ASSOCIATE STATION AIRED, THEN "PULLED" WHEN A READER COMMENTED THAT THAT WAS A VIDEO OF A DRILL, THAT HE HAD TAKEN PART IN THAT DRILL.
I IGNORED THAT BIT OF "REVELATION" AS IT CAME FROM YOUTUBE.
AMERICAN MEDIA'S IGNORANCE CERTAINLY DOES SHOW!
OR ELSE THEY'RE MISREPORTING LIKE GOOD LITTLE PUPPETS?
ONE FINAL PHOTO TAKEN FROM A VIDEO THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS A CNN ASSOCIATE STATION AIRED, THEN "PULLED" WHEN A READER COMMENTED THAT THAT WAS A VIDEO OF A DRILL, THAT HE HAD TAKEN PART IN THAT DRILL.
I IGNORED THAT BIT OF "REVELATION" AS IT CAME FROM YOUTUBE.
WILL THE FACTS EVER BE HONESTLY REPORTED BY AMERICA'S MEDIA?
NOPE.
THEY CAN'T EVEN GET TOGETHER ON A STORY LIKE THIS ONE...TOO MANY ERRORS, TOO MANY UNASKED AND UNANSWERED QUESTIONS...THINGS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT CALIBER WEAPON WAS USED AND HOW MANY WERE USED TO KILL.
LIKE "CAIR", OUR MEDIA'S CONCERNS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ABOUT HELPING PROVIDE CLOSURE TO GRIEVING FAMILIES.
ONCE AGAIN, AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY BECOMES A DAMNED POLITICAL CIRCUS.
WHERE IS THAT THIRD GUNMAN?
WHO WAS THE THIRD MAN SO MANY SAW?
NOPE.
THEY CAN'T EVEN GET TOGETHER ON A STORY LIKE THIS ONE...TOO MANY ERRORS, TOO MANY UNASKED AND UNANSWERED QUESTIONS...THINGS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT CALIBER WEAPON WAS USED AND HOW MANY WERE USED TO KILL.
LIKE "CAIR", OUR MEDIA'S CONCERNS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ABOUT HELPING PROVIDE CLOSURE TO GRIEVING FAMILIES.
ONCE AGAIN, AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY BECOMES A DAMNED POLITICAL CIRCUS.
WHERE IS THAT THIRD GUNMAN?
WHO WAS THE THIRD MAN SO MANY SAW?
WHY DIDN'T THE FBI, CIA, 'HOMELAND SECURITY' AND NSA SEE THIS COMING?
WHY WASN'T FAROOK AT LEAST "CASUALLY OBSERVED" AFTER HIS TRIPS TO THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFTER BUYING TWO 9MM WEAPONS, AT THE LEAST?
IS THIS ONE OF THOSE "FBI STING OPERATIONS" WHEREIN THE FBI ASSISTS THE 'TERRORISTS', AS THE NEW YORK TIMES AND OTHERS REPORTED, THEN MAKE THE BUST AND TELL US THEY SAVED US?
WHY WASN'T THE NSA SITTING ON TOP OF THOSE ISIS WEBSITES?
WHAT EVIDENCE THAT POLICE, WHOMEVER, MAY HAVE MISSED AT FAROOK'S HOME WAS CARTED AWAY BY THE OWNER, THE GAWKING CROWD, REPORTERS HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AND JOURNALISTS?
IF THE POLICE THOUGHT THERE WERE BOMBS IN THE BUILDING, WHY DIDN'T THEY EVACUATE SOONER THAN THEY DID?
AND WHY ALLOW THOSE "BUSLOADS OF RELATIVES AND FRIENDS" ALLOWED WITHIN A PERIMETER OF A POSSIBLE EXPLOSION SOON AFTER THE EVACUATION, ALL THROUGH THE DAY?
WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT CONSIDERATE ENOUGH OF PUBLIC SAFETY?
WHAT WAS THEIR ACTUAL RESPONSE TIME AFTER THE FIRST 911 CALL?
WHY DID THEY STORM THAT HOSPITAL?
WHO RENTED THE SUV WITH UTAH TAGS?
WHAT IF RESIDENTS ON THE STREET OF THAT GUN BATTLE HAD BEEN KILLED BY THE CROSSFIRE, BY POLICE BULLETS...WOULD WE EVER KNOW?
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?
FORGET THE GUN CRAP!
FIND OUT THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AMERICANS ARE ASKING, MEDIA PUPPETS!
FOR ONCE, DO SOME HONEST, IN-DEPTH REPORTING!
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FURTHER READING
~ POLICE SCANNER REPORTS
Recovering from a lengthy illness once, bored unbelievably, a friend suggested bringing over a police scanner for me to "play with", said it beat crossword puzzles.
One hears things "RAW" on those scanners...things said without editing, without thinking maybe who's listening?
One of the most detailed and "RAW" posts I found on the internet was on Reddit, by a guy with a scanner.
It was, at the least, interesting, so I offer it here.
It's lengthy...
READ THE ENTIRE THING <HERE>.
"Potential explosive mentioned on scanner."
Witnesses are 'staging' near the golf course.
Edit: they're now evacuating the north building. Seem very calm. Trying to reach someone by phone.
Edit 2: they're working on trying to figure out a description. They mention a "Say-ed" guy with a birthdate, mention a previous workup from last week.
Edit 3: Requests to keep distance from building.
Edit 4: Descriptions requested again... SWAT is present, PD leaving building.
Edit 5: LAPD requests info on suspects in connection with previous happenings. Race is requested, no distinct answer.
Edit 6: School buses arriving to pick up witnesses.
Edit 7: People still golfing on golf course. Black SUV mentioned.
Edit 8: EOD no longer in south building.
Edit 9: Black yukon with one subject with black mask mentioned.
Edit 10: Lots of cops standing around looking for a suspect suspects on the loose.
Edit 11: 4 victims noted, no police presence. Police presence requested.
Edit 12: Junior officer Ryan Shulky is the 'one' with the info. Notes info came from witness, knew him as a county worker, acting weird.
Edit 13: 2 "unknown raced" males removing black clothing on/at bridge.
Edit 14: Possible shots heard at Patton facility.
Edit 15: Other officers asking if they should continue patrolling or meet back at staging area. Told to report back.
Edit 16: More officers requesting to go mobile, no response. SWAT swapped with "other bodies." Elderly group asking for assistance, told to take shelter in place.
Edit 17: Dispatch requests calls be directed to other channels.
Edit 18: Reminder that all need to be "checked out" before clearing/leaving.
Edit 19: Blue vehicle mentioned with white male. Southern building cleared. Media still reporting body armor, mentions black SUV the PD are in "desperate pursuit" of. North building still being cleared.
Edit 20: The empty tents we all know and love. Black mercedes with open doors guy (presumed occupant) got into toyota truck.
Edit 21: Really hope my recorder just picked up the mention this reporter made on KTLA about how everyone coming out of the buildings is wearing some sort of new "government tag."
Edit 22: EOD heading back into South building.
Edit 23: Guy in fatigues reported. 3 life flight choppers chillin on a golf course.
Edit 24: Witness reports Middle eastern male, camouflage shorts, long beard with backpack (walking?)
Edit 25: Unconfirmed reports of someone arming up in a mall parking lot.
Edit 26: Police request media be pushed back.
Edit 27: I hope no one minds I am doing this. This is some weird stuff and now I kinda think there may be something afoot. All the way down to the very calm hospital staff.
Edit 28: Officers pursuing suspect at mall on foot. Description requested. Camouflage jacket, khaki pants. Other officers responding to another reported suspect.
Edit 29: Hispanic male with backpack reported standing next to silver chevy with doors open.
Edit 30: More police now going mobile.
Edit 31: EOD moving in again to.. Dismantle? device in southern building.
Edit 32: Larger robot moving in. PD being directed to Waterman.
Edit 33: Every school in county on lockdown.
Edit 34: Mention made of a man born in '54.
Edit 35: White male reported in fatigues on railroad tracks.
Edit 36: Family members redirected. Guy in fatigues actually wearing grey shirt tan pants.
Edit 37: Press conference. Officers still in the building. Dark colored SUV. No motive. No identification. Working with federal partners, MAY have fled area, lockdown courts, county buildings, increased law enforcement at prime targets, full support and resources pledged, FBI is present, ATF is present, public safety number 1 goal, do not know if this is a terrorist incident, Employees are state/county employees.. treats mental health.. don't know if any of them are victims, no info that children were involved, these people came prepared, long guns, not handguns, no weapons recovered, Prelim number 14 people deceased, 14 people injured, number of other minor injuries, IED's are things that "gave concern" do not know if they are bombs, "no specific descriptions", Very generic, 3 suspects, never heard camouflage, dark SUV, some info may change in the future, addressing other facilities, no credible threats, masks unconfirmed, no specifics, number of officers with high caliber rifles, historically, these investigations can turn into federally prosecuted, best to have them on-hand from the get-go, no terrorist link so far, domestic terror is what this may be, only thing they can say is that they were on a mission, in building several minutes, no motive, no info about hostages, long guns, no specifics, not a handgun, No more questions, trust us, we got you.
Edit 38: Suspicious suspect reported, unknown raced male dark clothing, under freeway. Black SUV at park reported.
Edit 39: No media, no civilians please, no security guards, either.
Edit 40: Chaplains arriving, being sent to staging areas.
Edit 41: "desperate scene" reported at another hospital...
Edit 42: Blueprints being printed out.
Edit 43: More PD requested for followup
Edit 44: With 3 suspects on the loose, rambo can hold a corner by himself, relieving his partner to report to staging area.
Edit 45: No more suspicious calls.
Edit 46: Robots still investigating scene.
Edit 47: Someone moved a PD's car.
Edit 48: 1/2 floors of north building clear, moving to 3rd floor. Mysterious mention of a request for coroner report.
Edit 49: Possible mention of suspects at staging area for family. Another suspicious vehicle reported.
Edit 50: Mention of possible evidence.
Edit 51: Creepy voiced PD says he has witnesses for reuniting with family. Taking witnesses to The Rock Church for questioning. Dispatch seems confused as to why witnesses are being questioned at the church. One more bus requested for witnesses at main scene.
Edit 52: Earlier report of suspect with long gun questioned, confirmed, no PD went to check out that report. Gun possibly ditched in area of 30th east of waterman on south side. Rifle confirmed, .22 long rifle.
Edit 53: People seen "hiding out in parking lot" at main scene. Dogs report no people.
Edit 54: Witnesses report police in area last night, asking to confirm if any foot pursuit occurred.
Edit 55: Still questions about where witnesses go. Witnesses go to The Rock, families go to Hernandez center. 100 people still on golf course.
Edit 56: Thanks, /u/SafetySpace, He's still flying around up there.
Edit 57: Armed suspect reported 15 minutes ago. Confirmed, that's their guy they're currently looking for/spotted a couple times. Suspect reported again by another officer.
Edit 58: Some officers receiving intel from tactical. Putting plan together to 'help them out'
Edit 59: 2 suspects held at gunpoint, switch to channel 2.
Edit 60: Heavyset white male in champagne colored SUV reported.
Edit 61: Elderly group requests to leave again, can leave unless they are witnesses. Stuck until PD clears all barricades.
Edit 62: Suburban SUV Utah plate 2 males reported (on Tennessee?), requesting help.
Edit 63: mention of a "soft drive-by" on the SUV with Utah plates, Brand new, 2014-2015 front windows not tinted.
Edit 64: "contact with one we're bringing out"
Edit 65: Bomb threats at two more locations.
Edit 66: Pursuit confirmed. Through animal control parking lot at high rate of speed. Northbound E street. Going into target parking lot high rate of speed. Holy shit this is intense. Unknown if related. Dark colored chevy. Northbound allen.
Edit 67: Rialto + sierra crashed? into white truck Male dark shirt blue jeans running east bound. 4 officers on subject. One Suspect being taken into custody.
Edit 68: Whoa, another vehicle? shots fired out rear window at richardson + San Bernardino
Edit 69: Gurney and fire requested at crash? Request to shut down West San Sarnardino
Edit 70: Possible 3rd vehicle
Edit 71: East bernardino. Requesting bearcat, multiple shots fired, Requesting medical.
Edit 71: Report about ghould alleyway Male dark skin.
Edit 72: Requesting bearcat eastbound suspect vehicle stopped. One down outside car, one possible on the run, one possible down inside car.
Edit 73: Bearcat can't go that route. Officer down. Helicopter standing by to land.
Edit 74: Confirmed one man in vehicle, one man in street, witnesses say runner did run. officer says no one ran. wait for bearcat. will move up and check on 2 perps.
Edit 75: Vehicle on south side is the perp vehicle. One detained.
Edit 76: Injured up to 17 fatalities remains at 14.
Edit 77: suspect on Almond.
Edit 78: Radios went down for approx 1 min. Guy on almond un-involved.
Edit 79: Officers are focused on a certain house.
Edit 80: "dude in backseat" has AR strapped to chest, still breathing. Pipe bomb reported. LOL news says "no one in vehicle"
Edit 81: SWAT requested at house.
Edit 82: Call about black male in t-shirt running through backyard.
Edit 83: Juveniles causing a ruckus.
Edit 84: "flurry of people trying to shield who they were taking into the hospital under a sheet." reported by news. This person is confirmed to be the officer involved in the shootout on scanner.
Edit 85: Outstanding suspect information requested. Police in school. Questions about moving another suspect.
Edit 86: Shots fired at Amazon, witness says they got scared and ran.
Edit 87: Tennessee vehicle seems to be female occupants. "female arabic"
Edit 88: Shots are confirmed "near" amazon
Edits continue in a reply to this post.
~ POSTED IN THE CALGARY HERALD, DATED DECEMBER 1, 2015...DECEMBER 1, THE DAY BEFORE THE SHOOTING???
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/story.html?id=11560414
‘They came prepared to do what they did’: At least 14 dead, 17 hurt after California shooting spree.'
THAT'S THE KIND OF SLOPPINESS, A WRONG DATE, THAT FUELS THE REAL NUTCASES WHO GO WAY, WAY BEYOND "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS".
~Another "timeline" <HERE>.
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