THOSE TORTURE TAPES THAT BUSH, Jr, AND CHENEY ORDERED UP FOR VIEWING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THOSE "AGAINST GENEVA CONVENTION" TORTURE METHODS WE'VE EMPLOYED SINCE BEFORE THE GENEVA CONVENTION...ALL PROVED ABSOLUTELY USELESS!!!
[ The acting CIA general counsel at that time, Robert Eatinger, who allowed Jose Rodriguez, ALSO of the CIA, to destroy tapes depicting the torture of terror suspects, was named 1600 times in the Senate’s report on interrogation, yet was acting as the agency’s top lawyer. ]
AND DO GIVE THIS A READ, IF YOU FIND THE TIME:
<<The New York Times squarely placed four White House lawyers in the middle of the decision about whether to destroy the tapes—Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, John Bellinger and Harriet Miers. It also reported that at least one of them was strongly advocating destruction. Suspicion immediately fell on the principle mover in support of torture, David Addington.
Second, John Kiriakou clarified his statements about the purpose for which the tapes were made. It was to brief higher ups about the process of the interrogation. Reports persist that one “higher-up” in particular had a special strong interest in knowing the details of the Abu Zubaydah case. His name is George W. Bush.>>
CHENEY HAS SAID QUITE PUBLICLY THAT HE WOULD ORDER THE USE OF TORTURE ALL OVER AGAIN...
NOW YOU KNOW WHY I REFER TO DICK AS "DARTH CHENEY" ...HE IS ONE SICK PUPPY...JUST MAY BE ONE OF THE TOP 3 MOST DANGEROUS MEN ON EARTH...
AS PERHAPS JOHN MCCAIN COULD TELL US, TORTURE WILL MAKE A MAN SAY ANYTHING, BUT SAYING ANYTHING MEANS NOTHING HE SAYS CAN BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
SURELY, SURELY AMERICAN "INTELLIGENCE" EXPERTS WERE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT PAIN CAN CREATE LIARS OUT OF HONEST MEN?
Senate aides and government officials continue to leak details from a classified report on the CIA's Bush administration torture program, giving us a fuller picture of who was tortured, how it happened, and what limited information the government learned.
The most recent (and probably the most detailed) assessment of the report's contents comes from Tuesday's Washington Post. In addition to fleshing out the dispute between the Senate and the CIA that flared up earlier this month, it also reinforces an Associated Press report that information collected through torture didn't help catch Osama bin Laden — if it did any good at all.
Here are the people we know were tortured by the CIA. (Under the rubric established by the Bush administration, none of what is described below counts as "torture," but is instead "enhanced" interrogation.)
Update, 4:00 p.m.: Katherine Hawkins, a national security fellow at Open the Government and an investigator for the Detainee Task Force, wrote to point out that the above list is incomplete. Hawkins pointed to this report from the Red Cross about the CIA's rendition and interrogation program which includes lengthier descriptions of both types of abuse and a list of 14 people to whom they were applied.
SUFFOCATION, BEATINGS, CONFINEMENT IN A SMALL BOX, NEAR-DROWNING...SURE, THOSE ARE NOT METHODS OF TORTURE, RIGHT?
BUT WAIT!
THERE'S MORE
THE WASHINGTON POST HAS SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL "LEAKERS" APPARENTLY.
The report, built around detailed chronologies of dozens of CIA detainees, documents a long-standing pattern of unsubstantiated claims as agency officials sought permission to use — and later tried to defend — excruciating interrogation methods that yielded little, if any, significant intelligence, according to U.S. officials who have reviewed the document.
“The CIA described [its program] repeatedly both to the Department of Justice and eventually to Congress as getting unique, otherwise unobtainable intelligence that helped disrupt terrorist plots and save thousands of lives,” said one U.S. official briefed on the report. “Was that actually true? The answer is no.”
Current and former U.S. officials who described the report spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue and because the document remains classified. The 6,300-page report includes what officials described as damning new disclosures about a sprawling network of secret detention facilities, or “black sites,” that was dismantled by President Obama in 2009.
The report describes previously undisclosed cases of abuse, including the alleged repeated dunking of a terrorism suspect in tanks of ice water at a detention site in Afghanistan — a method that bore similarities to waterboarding but never appeared on any Justice Department-
approved list of techniques.
The Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to vote Thursday to send an executive summary of the report to Obama for declassification. U.S. officials said it could be months before that section, which contains roughly 20 conclusions and spans about 400 pages, is released to the public.
“The CIA conflated what was gotten when, which led them to misrepresent the effectiveness of the program,” said a second U.S. official who has reviewed the report. The official described the persistence of such misstatements as among “the most damaging” of the committee’s conclusions.
HA HA HA HA HA!
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT...IF WE ARE EVER GIVEN THAT RESULT...
<<The CIA is also accused of misrepresenting the value of prisoners to allow for torture when the prisoners were really minor captives. Thus, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri was identified as the “mastermind” the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen when he was a minor captive.
Torture, in turn, has long been defined as a war crime, and the United States is under treaty obligation to investigate and prosecute such crimes.
However, such a principle did not make for good politics. Accordingly, as soon as he was elected, Obama set out to dampen talk of prosecution. Various intelligence officials and politicians went public with accounts of the Obama administration making promises to protect Bush officials and CIA employees from prosecution.>>
The Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation is the closest thing the Bush interrogation program will get to a reckoning, at least for the foreseeable future.
IMAGINE, JUST TRY TO IMAGINE, GENTLE READERS, THAT YOU ARE CAPTURED, TAKEN AWAY AND TORTURED, HORRIBLY AND VIOLENTLY AND RELENTLESSLY TORTURED, TO GET INFORMATION FROM YOU ABOUT SOMETHING, ANYTHING.
WHAT WOULD YOU NOT SAY TO END THE TORTURE?
WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE UP, SWEAR TO, INSIST WAS THE TRUTH TO MAKE THE TORTURE STOP?
WOULD YOU LIE TO GET RELIEF FROM TORTURE?
THAT IS WHAT MAKES TORTURE STUPID, ILLOGICAL, USELESS.
THERE ARE FAR BETTER MEANS OF EXTRACTING THINGS FROM A HUMAN MIND, AND THE U.S. HAS THOSE AT ITS DISPOSAL...
THEY'VE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR YEARS AND YEARS...
WE MAY NOT KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO MIND-READING ABILITY...THAT'S "CLASSIFIED"...
THERE ARE SOME VERY INTERESTING ARTICLES AT THE ABOVE HUFF-POST SITE.
Recently, the National Security Agency (NSA) of the US has developed a very efficient method of controlling the human brain. This technology is called Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and is expected to revolutionize crime detection and investigation.
The EMF emissions from the brain can be decoded into current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain. It sends complicated codes and electromagnetic pulse signals to activate evoked potentials inside the brain, thus generating sounds and visual images in the neural circuits. With its speech, auditory and visual communication systems, RNM allows for a complete audio-visual brain to brain link or a brain-to-computer link.
<<NSA's RNM equipment remotely reads the evoked potentials (EEGs) of the human brain for tracking individuals, and can send messages through the nervous systems to affect their performance. RNM can electronically identify individuals and track them anywhere in the US. This equipment is on a network and is used for domestic intelligence operations, government security and military base security, and in case of bioelectric warfare.>>
SO, YOU SEE, NO NEED FOR TORTURE...JUST PLUG THEM IN AND SCAN AWAY...
WE KNOW NOT BECAUSE WE DO NOT QUESTION....EVERYTHING.
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