Thursday, December 15, 2016
FBI CONTRADICTS CIA ON RUSSIAN ROLE IN ELECTION
WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR CONGRESS TO STOP WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY ON STUPID INVESTIGATIONS?
TWO FORMER AMBASSADORS, ONE FROM THE U.K., ONE AMERICAN WHO WAS AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N., THE OUTGOING FBI CHIEF, "ANONYMOUS" AND NOTED NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERTS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS, ALL WHO HAVE EITHER TESTIFIED BEFORE CONGRESS IN RECENT DAYS AND/OR PUBLICLY STATED THAT IT WAS AN INSIDER, NOT RUSSIA WHO HANDED OVER INTERNAL DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE EMAILS TO WIKILEAKS, DON'T SEEM TO BE ENOUGH TO STOP CONGRESS AND OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA FROM CONDUCTING YET ANOTHER LONG, WASTEFUL, FRUITLESS WITCH HUNT.
THE FBI DOES NOT, REPEAT, DOES NOT CONCUR WITH THE CIA THAT RUSSIA IS TO BLAME FOR THE LEAKS OF DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE INTERNAL EMAILS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION OR THAT THERE WAS ANY INTENT BY RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME.
EVEN ONE OF THE REAL 'FAKE NEWS SITE' (MAINSTREAM MEDIA) , WASHINGTON POST, STATED THIS:
"The competing messages, according to officials in attendance, also reflect cultural differences between the FBI and the CIA. The bureau, true to its law enforcement roots, wants facts and tangible evidence to prove something beyond all reasonable doubt. The CIA is more comfortable drawing inferences from behavior.
FBI WANTS PROOF, CIA USES CONJECTURE....REMEMBER THE IRAQ WMD REPORTS BY CIA?
THE CIA WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BENGHAZI, ACCORDING TO THE MILITARY AND THOSE ON THE GROUND THERE THAT NIGHT.
“The FBI briefers think in terms of criminal standards — can we prove this in court,” one of the officials said. “The CIA briefers weigh the preponderance of intelligence and then make judgment calls to help policymakers make informed decisions. High confidence for them means ‘we’re pretty damn sure.’ It doesn’t mean they can prove it in court.”
The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling. “There’s no question that [the Russians’] efforts went one way, but it’s not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals,” said one U.S. official.
The murky nature of the assessments is maddening many lawmakers who are demanding answers about the Kremlin’s role in the presidential race.
The FBI, under Director James B. Comey, is already under fire for dropping a bombshell letter days before the election on the discovery of new emails potentially related to the Clinton private server investigation. The emails proved irrelevant to the case.
On Saturday, outgoing Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) called on Comey to resign, saying the FBI director deliberately kept quiet evidence about Russia’s motives before the election."
SHUT UP AND JUST GO HOME, REID!
A FALSE FLAG BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION...WE SAW IT COMING MONTHS AGO.
GOT TO WONDER...DID OBAMA HIMSELF TURN OVER THE EMAILS TO WIKILEAKS TO MAKE THE GULLIBLE MASSES BELIEVE THAT RUSSIA HELPED TRUMP?
John Bolton, a former U.N. ambassador , said Sunday that reports of Russian interference in the presidential election may be a “false flag” conjured up by the Obama administration.
“We would want to know who else might want to influence the election and why they would leave fingerprints that point to the Russians. That’s why I say, until we know more about how the intelligence community came to this conclusion, we don’t know whether it’s Russian inspired or a false flag.”
DID SCHULTZ TELL ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES OF ALL TIME?
“This is not an effort to challenge the outcome of the election,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said.
GIVE THE MAN A "PANTS-ON-FIRE" RATING FOR THAT LIE!
The Washington Post reported that US intelligence agencies were skeptical about the possibility that hackers would have been able to systematically manipulate the results of the election.
"...intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin “directing” the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks, a second senior U.S. official said. Those actors, according to the official, were “one step” removed from the Russian government, rather than government employees.
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has said in a television interview that the “Russian government is not the source.”
The White House and CIA officials declined to comment.
EVERY STATE IN AMERICA REPORTS NO HACKING OF THEIR SYSTEMS!
A CIA spokeswoman told Reuters that the agency had no comment on the matter.
REUTERS, DEC. 13, 2016:
Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources...
"The overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American officials said on Monday.
While the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, said the officials, who declined to be named.
The position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S. intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks, and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber attacks.
"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."
The Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for the same reason, the three officials said.
The ODNI, headed by James Clapper, was established after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the recommendation of the commission that investigated the attacks. The commission, which identified major intelligence failures, recommended the office's creation to improve coordination among U.S. intelligence agencies.
Republican Senator John McCain said on Monday there was "no information" that Russian hacking of American political organizations was aimed at swaying the outcome of the election.
"It's obvious that the Russians hacked into our campaigns," McCain said. "But there is no information that they were intending to affect the outcome of our election and that's why we need a congressional investigation," he told Reuters.
In an angry letter sent to ODNI chief Clapper on Monday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said he was “dismayed” that the top U.S. intelligence official had not informed the panel of the CIA’s analysis and the difference between its judgment and the FBI’s assessment.
Noting that Clapper in November testified that intelligence agencies lacked strong evidence linking Russian cyber attacks to the WikiLeaks disclosures, Nunes asked that Clapper, together with CIA and FBI counterparts, brief the panel by Friday on the latest intelligence assessment of Russian hacking during the election campaign.
THERE'S MUCH MORE TO IT THAN THIS!
Craig Murray, Britain’s former ambassador to Russia, has stated in an interview given to the UK's Guardian Newspaper that he has met the "insider" who passed the DNC emails to Wikileaks, that it was not Russians.
“It is extremely amusing for the CIA to be accusing another country of interfering in domestic elections, when interfering in other country’s domestic elections on scores of occasions is what the CIA has done to effect regime change for the last 70 years so really; this is almost beyond satire.”
As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two. And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.
The continued ability of the mainstream media to claim the leaks lost Clinton the election because of “Russia”, while still never acknowledging the truths the leaks reveal, is Kafkaesque.A second senior official cited by the Washington Post conceded that intelligence agencies did not have specific proof that the Kremlin was “directing” the hackers, who were said to be one step removed from the Russian government.
Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bullshit”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”While the article was not taken down, the home page links to it vanished and it was replaced by a ludicrous one repeating the mad CIA allegations against Russia and now claiming – incredibly – that the CIA believe the FBI is deliberately blocking the information on Russian collusion. Presumably this totally nutty theory, that Putin is somehow now controlling the FBI, is meant to answer my obvious objection that, if the CIA know who it is, why haven’t they arrested somebody. That bit of course would be the job of the FBI, who those desperate to annul the election now wish us to believe are the KGB.
Very, very few people can be said to definitely have access to the source of the leak. The people saying it is not Russia are those who do have access. After access, you consider truthfulness. Do Julian Assange and I have a reputation for truthfulness? Well in 10 years not one of the tens of thousands of documents WikiLeaks has released has had its authenticity successfully challenged. As for me, I have a reputation for inconvenient truth telling.
Contrast this to the “credible sources” Freedland relies on. What access do they have to the whistleblower? Zero. They have not the faintest idea who the whistleblower is. Otherwise they would have arrested them. What reputation do they have for truthfulness? It’s the Clinton gang and the US government, for goodness sake.
In fact, the sources any serious journalist would view as “credible” give the opposite answer to the one Freedland wants. But in what passes for Freedland’s mind, “credible” is 100% synonymous with “establishment”. When he says “credible sources” he means “establishment sources”. That is the truth of the “fake news” meme. You are not to read anything unless it is officially approved by the elite and their disgusting, crawling whores of stenographers like Freedland.
The worst thing about all this is that it is aimed at promoting further conflict with Russia. This puts everyone in danger for the sake of more profits for the arms and security industries – including of course bigger budgets for the CIA. As thankfully the four year agony of Aleppo comes swiftly to a close today, the Saudi and US armed and trained ISIS forces counter by moving to retake Palmyra. This game kills people, on a massive scale, and goes on and on.
AGAIN, CLAPPER DOES NOT CONCUR WITH CIA
James Clapper's Office says CIA claim Russia behind DNC and Podesta leaks to swing election to Donald Trump unproven. FBI concurs.
James Clapper’s Office of the Director of National Intelligence (“ODNI”) – which supervises the work of all of the US’s 17 intelligence agencies.
REUTERS INTERVIEWED THREE ODNI OFFICIALS
Speaking anonymously to Reuters, three ODNI officials have trashed the CIA claim that Russia provided Wikileaks with the DNC and Podesta leaks in order to help Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton in the US election.
This whole hysteria of Russia being behind the DNC and Podesta leaks is now exposed as the work of a faction within the CIA who are cooking up a case against Russia that goes far beyond what even ODNI and the FBI say is the evidence in order to deny Donald Trump the Presidency and to hand it over to Hillary Clinton.
As it is looking increasingly likely that this coup will fail, it is no wonder these people are starting to fear “reprisals”. On the strength of what they have done, at the very least they deserve the sack.
IS RUSSIA ON THE LIST OF THOSE WHO WOULD DO ANYTHING TO BRING DOWN HILLARY CLINTON?
WHAT THIS HAS DONE IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
HILLARY ISN'T GOING TO JAIL, BUT TRUMP MAY NOW LOSE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN THE AIM OF THE "LEAKER" ALL ALONG...DENY TRUMP THE WHITE HOUSE!
JULIAN ASSANGE HAS STATED (AND WHAT GOOD WOULD IT DO HIM AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO LIE?) THAT HE DID NOT GET THOSE EMAILS FROM RUSSIAN SOURCES.
EVEN SOME WHO HAVE TRIED TO BLAME RUSSIA HAVE ADMITTED THEY DON'T HAVE PROOF, THAT IT COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE.
THE FORMER U.K. AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA HAS EVEN SAID IN INTERVIEWS THAT HE MET THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EMAIL LEAKS AND THAT IT IS A "WASHINGTON INSIDER".
WHAT NO ONE SEEMS TO ADDRESS IN THIS MOST RECENT MADNESS IS HOW, HOW ON EARTH COULD RUSSIA HAVE KNOWN HOW AMERICAN VOTERS WOULD REACT IF THEY WERE THE ONES WHO HANDED ASSANGE THOSE EMAILS?
GIVEN ALL THE OTHER "DIRT" REVEALED ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, GIVEN 'REVELATION' AFTER REVELATION AS TO HER CHARACTER AND BUSINESS DEALINGS, HER 'FOUNDATION', THE WAY SHE MISHANDLED THE BENGHAZI AFFAIR, THE WAY SHE COVERED UP HER PRIVATE EMAIL SYSTEM, HER CONTEMPT FOR THE "WORKING CLASS" (AS REVEALED IN THOSE EMAILS!), WHY WOULD ANY HUMAN WITH A FUNCTIONAL BRAIN IMAGINE SHE LOST BECAUSE RUSSIA LIKES TRUMP?
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE SEE HIM AS ANYTHING BUT A CLOWN, A LIAR AND NOT SOMEONE TO BE CONCERNED WITH AT ALL.
OF COURSE, I COULD BE WRONG.
SOME MIGHT FIND HIM, AT LEAST, ENTERTAINING?
CNN, OCT. 30, 2016:
"FBI Director James Comey told members of Congress in a letter that “in connection with an unrelated case, the FBI learned of the existence of e-mails that appear to be pertinent’’ to his probe.
A law-enforcement source told The New York Post the e-mails came from an electronic device seized from Weiner and his wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, as part of the federal investigation of Weiner’s sext messages to a 15-year-old girl.
The feds confiscated four devices from the two, including a laptop Weiner used to send sleazy messages to the teenager.
[ACTUALLY, THE NYPD INITIALLY CONFISCATED THOSE DEVICES AND, APPARENTLY, HAS COPIES OF WHAT THEY FOUND ON THEM. AND HAVE THREATENED TO RELEASE THEM IF SOMEONE ELSE DIDN'T.]
They also found e-mails that Abedin either sent or received on the laptop they shared. The lead investigator in that case reported them to Comey.
A senior law-enforcement official told NBC that the FBI director’s letter was sent to lawmakers “out of an abundance of caution.”
Trump and many GOP lawmakers had earlier bashed Comey, accusing the FBI chief of letting Clinton off the hook.
The director was also taking heat from his own agents who disagreed with his decision not to prosecute Clinton, sources said."
From the Wall Street Journal...Oct. 16, 2016.
"PRESS BURIES HILLARY CLINTON'S SINS"
Start with a June 2015 email to Clinton staffers from Erika Rottenberg, the former general counsel of LinkedIn. Ms. Rottenberg wrote that none of the attorneys in her circle of friends “can understand how it was viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents.” She added: “It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of thing I’ve either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc.”
WHAT THEY FOUND DISGUSTED HARDENED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS:
"Becauseremember, this laptop was in the possession of Weiner, who did nothave a security clearance. And many, many of those emails were from her Yahoo account, which had State Department emails forwarded to them, so she could easier print these messages, scan them, and send them on to Hillary. That's the carelessness that Hillary and her staff had for the classified information that the intelligence community risks life and limb to collect in challenged, opposed areas around the world."
"That's not who you want in the White House," Prince declared.
Abedin told FBI agents in an April interview that she didn’t know how to consistently print documents or emails from her secure Dept. of State system. Instead, she would forward the sensitive emails to her yahoo, Clintonemail.com and her email linked to Weiner.
Abedin said, according to FBI documents, she would then access those email accounts via webmail from an unclassified computer system at the State Dept. and print the documents, many of which were classified and top secret, from the largely unprotected webmail portals.
Perhaps more alarming, according to the FBI’s 302 Report detailing its interview with Abedin, none of the multiple FBI agents and Justice Department officials who conducted the interview pressed Abedin to further detail the email address linked to Weiner. There was never a follow up, according to the 302 report.
According to Prince, as quoted by Breitbart:
"They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times," he said.
"The amount of garbage that they found in these emails, of criminal activity by Hillary, by her immediate circle, and even by other Democratic members of Congress was so disgusting they gave it to the FBI, and they said, 'We're going to go public with this if you don't reopen the investigation and you don't do the right thing with timely indictments,'" Prince explained.
Note that word disgusting and consider that those who are disgusted are members of NYPD, some of the most hardened dicks in the world, investigators who have seen every form of human perversion and criminality the mind can imagine. And they were disgusted by what that computer contains about the Clintons and their cronies.
Breitbart goes on:
"There is all kinds of criminal culpability through all the emails they've seen of that 650,000, including money laundering, underage sex, pay-for-play, and, of course, plenty of proof of inappropriate handling, sending/receiving of classified information, up to SAP level Special Access Programs," he stated.
"So the plot thickens. NYPD was pushing because, as an article quoted one of the chiefs – that's the level just below commissioner – he said as a parent, as a father with daughters, he could not let that level of evil continue," Prince said.
"That level of evil"? That a chief of the NYPD uses the descriptive evil rather than criminal should speak worlds as to just what the Clinton's really are – lawless and immoral predators, as so many of us have been insisting for years. But according to Prince, his NYPD sources say they have faced nothing but obstruction from the federal Justice Department, which is easy to believe when you consider that sources within the FBI have been saying the same thing.
And that, folks, is reason enough to vote against this evil criminal enterprise the Clintons have constructed. If Hillary gains control of the Justice Department, all her evildoing and criminality will be swept under the rug of history. We must follow the example of the NYPD and not let that happen.
STATE DEPARTMENT PANIC, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTERFERENCE WITH THE INVESTIGATION
"McCabe apparently denied agents' September request to seek non-government laptops seized from Clinton aides during the (then dormant) email scandal investigation. Relevant FBI/DOJ-granted immunity deals, described by ex-federal officials as highly irregular, stipulated that the evidence in question could only be used by officials looking into the mishandling of classified data -- not other potential crimes related to the Clinton Foundation. Hmmm.
Layer all of this new information atop the facts that Attorney General Loretta Lynch improperly huddled with Bill Clinton while the email probe was still active and then broke her word by inserting herself into the case, pressuring Comey not to update Congress on new developments that impact his previous testimony. Asking tough pointed questions about whether some top officials at DOJ are abusing their roles to protect their partisan allies is justified. I'll leave you with this bottom-line assessment, amid all the finger-pointing and acrimony:
So, according to @WallStreetJour1, FBI investigating 1) Clinton Foundation 2) Anthony Weiner 3) Terry McAuliffe. https://t.co/Y3qhhjj06Y
— Matthew Continetti (@continetti) October 31, 2016
Correct, on all three counts. But Continetti neglects to add Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin to his list, now that the FBI has reopened the email matter, too.
UPDATE - Here's Clinton categorically denying that there was any FBI investigation into her family's 'slush fund' foundation earlier this year. Those reports had "no basis" and were "irresponsible," she claimed.
THE WHOLE THING, ON THE PART OF DEMOCRATIC SORE LOSERS AND ON THE PART OF CONGRESSMEN IN THE GOP WHO WANTED TO "DUMP TRUMP" IS ALL ABOUT THE STARK FEAR THAT THOSE EMAILS RELEASED ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT WILL BE RELEASED.
OBAMA KNEW ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF RUSSIA AND CHINA AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTED TO HACKING INTO U.S. SYSTEMS.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND CHINA HAS BEEN CAUGHT RED-HANDED MORE THAN ONCE.
IT'S A FLAW IN OUR SECURITY, A FAILURE TO PROTECT OUR DATA AND YET OBAMA KEPT IT QUIET FOR MONTHS...CERTAIN CLINTON WOULD WIN.
ONLY AFTER SHE LOST DID THE RUSSIANS BECOME A POINT OF CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S A WAY TO STOP TRUMP AT THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT BEFORE OBAMA LEAVES OFFICE.
Why the Obama administration didn't respond earlier to Russian hacks
Obama administration officials dispute that the internal debate was slowed by anything other than the deliberate work of law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They say that the administration had to let the investigation take its course before making a policy response.
CNN discussions with multiple administration, law enforcement and intelligence officials tell a different story.
By July, law enforcement and intelligence agencies were sure that Russian intelligence hackers had breached the Democratic National Committee.
Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press" that the Obama administration didn't act soon enough.
"I do think it was a mistake," he said. "I think it was a mistake earlier frankly not to react more forcefully when North Korea hacked us. I think those kind of -- that lack of deterrence invited the Russians to meddle and consider they could do this with impunity."
IT WAS NO "MISTAKE". IT WAS A CHESS MOVE...HELD IN RESERVE IN CASE, JUST IN CASE, TRUMP WON.
IT'S AN ATTEMPT AT "CHECKMATE" IN A LONG, UGLY, CROOKED GAME OF CHESS.
WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE NO MOVES IN THIS HATEFUL GAME.
WE CAN NEVER AGAIN HOPE FOR A SANE OR LEGAL ELECTION IN AMERICA.
EVERY BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN COMPLICIT IN THIS TWISTED TALE.
WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE OUR VOTES COUNT.
OUR VOTES DON'T COUNT.
NOW WHAT, AMERICA?
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