The mainstream media (MSM), whores (my pet name for the MSM) to the leftist agenda, are screaming their heads off that "PROUD BOYS" is a white supremacist group.
CAN'T THEY SEE...OR READ...OR HEAR?
Proud Boys may be a lot of 'crazy things', but white supremacists is definitely not one of them.
Ask REAL supremacist groups like the KKK,
In late November 2018, it was FALSELY reported that the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.
Two weeks later, an FBI official briefing Clark County, Washington law enforcement officials on the group, denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding.
During the briefing, the official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group.
The media are being spoon-fed by none other than the notorious "Southern Poverty Law Center" (SPLC), which, in many Southern (and other) minds, seems to suggest there's a law that Southerners exist in poverty, and by NPR (National Public Radio) which reports daily to the public that Trump is Satan incarnate.
Here's the current leader of the scary, dangerous, 'fascist' group below on the right, Enrique Tarrio.
He was the head of Proud Boys of Miami, Florida but is now the national chairman of the "fraternity".
His parents came to America by way of Cuba.
He is referred to as "Afro-Cuban".
What a violent mob, right?
Of course. Anyone can.
Can it be a "fake"?
Sure.
Can anyone look into those hearts and minds and say for sure these people are fakes, frauds, "haters"?
NO, AT LEAST NO HUMAN CAN.
PB supports cops.
Cops lives matter to them, it seems.
A national call for far-right extremists to descend on a Portland park Saturday did not result in the extreme violence with counter-protesters that state and city leaders feared.
800 or fewer showed. They were outnumbered by counter-protesters at two nearby events.
Missing was that cops were AGAIN attacked by BLM the very next early morning.]
What really happened was that...
'Oregon Politicians Who Let BLM Ravage Portland for Months Responded to Proud Boys With Extreme Force.'
And didn't need it.
NBC "reported" partial facts.
Oregon Governor Kate Brown, seemingly panicked, declared a state of emergency and issued orders for a joint command of state, local, and county police.
[Apparently, there’s a difference between Black Lives Matter activists trashing the city and right-wing groups gathering in counter-protest.
“We will do everything possible to hold those who break the law accountable,” Wheeler said. “Violence is not welcome in Portland.”
WHAT THE PROUD BOYS ARE, THEY SAY, IS PROUD TO BE "BOYS", CHAUVINISTS, IF YOU WILL. ALL OF THEM, BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, ALL OF THEM ARE "PROUD TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH A PENIS" AND ARE PROUD TO BE AMERICANS, ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE.
NOT that we should take any website seriously or at face value.
THAT is their "extremist crime"...they are unapologetically "old-time macho" and extremely glad to be AMERICAN.
They say they're a fraternity... started as a "drinking club".
They have rather strange 'frat-boys' initiations, commit hazing, allow only biological males as members.
This, to them, is defined by a set of Y chromosomes and being born with an appendage called a penis, which members have elected to keep.
Some 'chapters' say they don't like Muslims, other chapters disagree with that.
They seem to want to be a bit like the Archie Bunker-type, sans the racist exclusionary mindset and add 'machismo'.
Some have said that the whole thing began as a joke.
They're "international", with chapters in Europe, Asia, Australia and Canada.
MOST of us who are older than 65 probably remember our dads as "chauvinists"; men who didn't want their wives to work away from home, who saw them as the queens of their castles, men who valued women and made sure others did, too, men who were the absolute heads of their households.
Our dads were those men that the feminists of today rail against, men who opened doors for ladies, who stood up when a woman entered the room, who tipped their hats to women in passing...yeah, chauvinists, unlike what some call "toy boys" today who walk behind their women, sometimes wearing one of those PINK HATS, afraid to voice an opinion or contradict their wives/girlfriends, afraid to say something "sexist", always afraid to let their masculinity show too much.
"a female who patronizes, disparages, or otherwise denigrates males in the belief that they are inferior to females and thus deserving of less than equal treatment or benefit."]
Our dads didn't "get in touch with their feminine side"...they were MEN, after all, with Y chromosomes, and back when we "boomers" were children, that was the NORM, that was just how it was and almost everyone seemed very happy to have it that way.
Where did people get such a "bad" ideology?
Most got it from reading the Bible...you know (or maybe you don't?), that business of woman being created to be a "help-meet", someone to end man's loneliness, bear his children, make a happy home, be a blessing to their mates.
Man was told to cherish her above all others, forsake their mother and father to become a husband, to work for her and their family and protect his household.
It surely wasn't that our mothers were "chattel", suppressed/oppressed, uneducated, pathetic servants, miserable slaves to the whims of male society.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OUR MOMS WILLINGLY CHOSE TO BECOME "SUZY HOMEMAKERS" AND RELISHED THE IDEA OF FINDING A "PERFECT MATCH", A "MAN AMONG MEN", A "HE-MAN".
AM I SAYING ALL PROUD BOYS ARE CHAUVINISTS ON THE ORDER OF OUR DADS?
NO!
1,000 TIMES NO!
Looks like some may be on the order of, say, Lyndon B. Johnson type-chauvinists, or maybe Donald Trump-style chauvinists, or even rival the movie 'king chauvinist', Nick Marshall.
BUT WHITE SUPREMACISTS THEY AREN'T.
WHITE SUPREMACISTS DON'T ALLOW NON-WHITES INTO THEIR GROUPS AND CERTAINLY NOT INTO THEIR INNER CIRCLES. THEY ARE NOT JUST RACISTS...THEY ARE VIOLENT, EVERYDAY RACISTS.
The ADL (Anti-defamation League) describes the group as "primarily alt-lite" and says its views are misogynistic, Islamophobic, transphobic, and anti-immigration.
They define “alt-lite” as a loosely connected movement of right-wing activists who reject the overtly white supremacist ideology of the alt right.
NOT "white supremacy".
Alt right writer and white supremacist Greg Johnson describes the difference between alt right and alt lite this way: “The alt light is defined by civic nationalism as opposed to racial nationalism,” which is a defining characteristic of the alt right.
I find the Proud Boys quite unnecessarily vulgar, grating, obnoxious and more than a bit "raw", but there's something I've noticed about them over the years...THEY ACTIVELY HELP THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND DO SO WITHOUT MEDIA PRAISE OR HEADLINES.
Here are a few photos of Proud Boys helping Houston recover from the hurricane in 2017.
I post these only to "give the devil his dues" and ask...
"Where was BLM? Where was antifa? The city's politicians?"
"Standing with police to protect homes from looters."
They have toy drives for kids every Christmas season.
DOES ANTIFA, BLM?
They take care backpacks to the homeless, send care packages to our military, help veterans in need.
DO CONGRESSMEN DO ANY OF THIS?
DOES BLM?
That she told them she doesn't vote as a black woman but as an AMERICAN?
“Here’s the thing that I’ve gotta tell you … when you know how people will just say shit about you, and say this is what they believe and this is who they are, know that the same thing happens to me, so one of the reasons I wanted to come out, is because I wanted to say ‘hey.'”
-Whoopi Goldberg speaking to the Proud Boys
Here's another one "for the books"...A BLM leader and Proud boys together, stating what they have in common.
A meeting ensued between Kelly and the Proud Boys chapter president, who was only identified as “Seth” in which they discussed myths about both groups.
About Jason Kessler
Kessler was briefly involved in the Occupy Wall Street movement around 2011 and was a past supporter of President Obama.
Kessler was eventually voted out of the group for advocating violence against police using bricks and Molotov cocktails.
It seems that the same thing happened after the Proud Boys founder, Gavin McInnes, learned that Kessler had lied to gain access to the Proud Boys to recruit whomever he could for true supremacist groups like the Neo-Nazis and Identity Evropa, two other sworn 'enemies' of Proud Boys.
Kessler was kicked out and 'flagged'.
So, YES, Kessler was a FORMER member of 'PB', but NOT when the 'Unite the Right' rally took place.
Gavin McInnes, the leader of the self-described "Western chauvinist" Proud Boys was invited to attend but declined because of an unwillingness "to be associated with explicit neo-Nazis" although the militia wing of the group 'the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights' did attend.
Yes, that's David Hogg with members of Proud Boys and YES, that's a real photo, un-retouched. Hogg was able to hold a civil conversation with Proud Boys.
Anyone could have a civil conversation with them who wanted to.
YES, the Proud Boys are holding signs that state ( and they're shouting loud and clear},
The Proud Boys say there is no public space for people to support Trump without being labeled “Nazis.”
Couldn't we add a long list of derogatory nouns and adjectives to that, seriously, honestly?
I've said before that I'm no fan of Trump, but I know a lot of fine people who are and I'd never pigeonhole half of America as Nazis or racists or fascists or any other thing JUST because they voted for Donald Trump.
I voted for NEITHER candidate in 2016.
As usual, I wrote in a name I thought was a better choice than either major presidential wannabe.
IN THE MINDS OF THE LEFT, RIGHT IS NEVER RIGHT.
SAME GOES FOR THE RIGHT...LEFT IS NEVER RIGHT.
POLITICS, AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES, HAS KEPT THE CIVIL WAR GOING STRONG HERE FOR 160 YEARS.
As anyone can see in this photo below of several Proud Boys, they come in all shapes, sizes, ages, races and from all walks of life.
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AND, wonder of wonders, they have a rather large "sub-chapter" of WOMEN, also of all ages, races and lifestyles.
The women call themselves "Proud Boys' Girls".
Some even credit the "fraternity" with saving their marriages.
That's the Proud Boys founder, Gavin McInnes, a New York-based conservative online talk show host and co-founder of Vice Media, with some of the Proud Boys' Girls in Vegas.
"PB" also has a chapter in ISRAEL, so, nope, not anti-Semitic as a group.
WHAT INCENSES ME ABOUT THE LEFT-WING CROWD, SPLC, MAINSTREAM MEDIA (MSM), IS THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF ANYONE, EVERYONE MOCKING, DISPARAGING CHRISTIAN VALUES, PRIDE IN BEING AMERICAN, CONSTITUTIONALISM, AND "WHITENESS" WHILE EXCUSING RADICAL RACISM BY THE LIKES OF ULTRA-RACIST BLM, "antifa", EXCUSING THE FEMINISTS' BIGOTRY, FEMALE CHAUVINISM, ATTACKS AGAINST "STRAIGHTS" BY THE LGBTQ FOLKS, APPLAUDING ATHEISM, LAWLESSNESS AND ANARCHY.
SOME MEDIA COMMENTS WOULD BE LAUGHABLE IF THEY WEREN'T SO DAMNED HYPOCRITICAL.
"Ryan Lenz, SPLC’s senior investigative writer, said the group’s (Proud Boys) relationship to extremism is not yet clear. But Lenz said there are echoes of white nationalism in the Proud Boys’ rhetoric."
IF ONE BUT LOOKS, ONE CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE PROUD BOYS WERE REALLY BORN WHITE AND THEY WERE BORN IN THIS NATION...AMERICA.
DAMN THEM, RIGHT?
NOW THE LEFT DOESN'T WANT BLACKS OR LATINOS TO BE ASHAMED OF BEING BLACK OR BROWN, JUST WHITES, ONLY WHITES SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
WHITES ABSOLUTELY MUST BE ASHAMED OF BEING WHITE,
IT'S MANDATORY TO THEIR LIBERAL SALVATION.
AND SHAME ON ANYONE WHO LIVES IN THE NATION CALLED AMERICA AND IS PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, RYAN?
ARE YOU PLANNING A MOVE YOU DON'T REVEAL IN YOUR COMMENTS?
A STANDING OVATION FOR GAY PRIDE, BLACK PRIDE, BUT OFF WITH THE HEADS OF ANYONE WITH AMERICAN (WESTERN) OR WHITE PRIDE?
SCREW THAT!
AND SCREW THOSE WHO WANT TO CRAM THAT SORT OF BULLSH*T DOWN MY THROAT!
“When you talk about Western ideals … what you’re talking about is European ideals and the descendants of Europe,” Lentz said. “Western values are the values of whiteness.”
THOSE "SETTLERS" (MOST OF US "INDIGENOUS" PEOPLE CALL EVERYONE WHO GOT HERE BY BOAT "INVADERS", RYAN. WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THE WORD 'SETTLERS' OFFENDS THE COMPLETE HELL OUT OF ME?) STOPPED BEING EUROPEAN WHEN THEY CAME HERE AND NEVER WENT BACK...JUST LIKE THE AFRICANS CEASED BEING AFRICAN WHO ALSO CAME HERE BY BOAT AND NEVER WENT HOME AGAIN.
IS HE SAYING ONLY AFRICAN VALUES, BLACK VALUES HAVE MERIT?
SURE SEEMS THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING.
"Lenz said anti-Islam and anti-feminist ideologies “play deeply into the grains of the ‘alt-right,’ and whether you know it or not, you’re becoming a very distinct element of the ‘alt-right.’ ”
DOES RYAN CONDEMN ISLAM FOR BEING ANTI-SEMITIC, ANTI-FEMINIST MISOGENYSTS, ANTI-GAY, FOR "HONOR KILLINGS", FOR LABELING MUSLIMS WHO CONVERT TO ANY OTHER RELIGION AS "INFIDELS" WHO CAN NEVER ATTAIN 'HEAVEN'?
DOES RYAN CONDEMN "ALT-LEFT" FEMINISTS FOR BEING ANTI-MALE?
DOES RYAN CONDEMN RYAN FOR BEING BIASED AND ULTRA-JUDGMENTAL AND ANTI-AMERICAN AND ALL THE REST THAT RYAN SURE SEEMS TO BE?
DR. BEN CARSON IS AN EXTREMIST?
In October 2014, the SPLC added Dr. Ben Carson to its extremist watch list, citing his association with groups the SPLC considers extreme, and his "linking of gays with pedophiles".
Following criticism, the SPLC concluded its profile of Carson did not meet its standards, removed his listing, and apologized to him in February 2015.
SPLC LABELED A MUSLIM AS AN ANTI-MUSLIM EXTREMIST.
In October 2016, the SPLC published its "Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists", which listed the British activist Maajid Nawaz and a nonprofit group he founded, the Quilliam Foundation.
"Given our understanding of the views of Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam, it was our opinion at the time that the Field Guide was published that their inclusion was warranted. But after getting a deeper understanding of their views and after hearing from others for whom we have great respect, we realize that we were simply wrong to have included Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam in the Field Guide in the first place."
WHO GAVE SPLC AND/OR RYAN THE RIGHT TO DESIGNATE WHOMEVER THEY PLEASE AS HATE GROUPS, WHITE SUPREMACISTS, EXTREMISTS?
WE, THE PEOPLE, DAMN SURE NEVER VOTED FOR THAT.
I GAVE NO ONE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE SUCH THINGS FOR ME.
DID YOU?
WOULD YOU?
PRAGER UNVERSITY's VIDEO EXPLAINS THE SPLC QUITE WELL...
MUST WE ALL EMBRACE THE ALT-LEFT, AND HATE AND BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES ENOUGH TO SATISFY RYAN?
RYAN, IN MY INDIGENOUS AMERICAN OPINION, IS A HYPOCRITICAL, FEAR-MONGERING, VERY BIASED BIGOT.
HIS LABELINGS CAN COST PEOPLE THEIR LIVES.
BTW, HERE'S A PHOTO OF RYAN.
LOOK AT THAT.
RYAN IS ONE OF THOSE "EUROPEAN DESCENDANTS" WHOM HE BASHES AND CONDEMNS.
RYAN IS A HYPOCRITE AS WELL AS A BIGOT.
AND WHITE...RYAN IS VERY, VERY WHITE.
HOWEVER...RYAN IS FREE TO BE ASHAMED OF HIS WHITENESS AND OF BEING AN AMERICAN.
RYAN CAN CHOOSE TO BE A BIGOT AND A HYPOCRITE.
WHY?
BECAUSE RYAN IS AN AMERICAN WHO HAS THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS LISTED BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTION THAT EVERY OTHER AMERICAN HAS, BAR NONE.
RYAN HAS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS JUST AS WE ALL DO.
RYAN HAS SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, JUST AS WE ALL DO.
RYAN HAS RIGHTS UNDER THE THIRD THROUGH TENTH ORIGINAL AMENDMENTS, COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS THE BILL OF RIGHTS, JUST AS WE ALL DO.
ALL OF THE 27 AMENDMENTS APPLY TO ALL OF US EQUALLY.
ALL.
ALL, AS IN EVERY SINGLE U.S. CITIZEN BORN OR NATURALIZED.
THERE ARE NO EXCLUSIONS.
ALL, INCLUDING "PROUD BOYS".
IF YOU ARE WHITE, BLACK, GRAY WITH LIME GREEN POLKA DOTS (OR YOU'RE 'ORANGE') AND YOU ARE AN AMERICAN, YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS THAT ANY OTHER, ALL OTHER, AMERICANS HAVE.
IF YOU ARE MALE, FEMALE OR IDENTIFY AS A MARSH HARE, YOU, TOO HAVE THESE RIGHTS.
IF YOU ARE A MALE OR FEMALE CHAUVINIST OR A RACIST, OR A CHRISTIAN, AN ATHEIST, SOMEONE WHO HYPHENATES WHAT YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE, IF YOU ARE KKK OR CLERGY, VULGAR OR ANGELIC, YOU HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS THAT ALL HAVE,
"OLD GLORY" IS OUR NATIONAL FLAG.
IF YOU DISHONOR THAT FLAG, DON'T WHINE AND BITCH WHEN SOMEONE PISSES ON "YOUR" FLAG.
NEITHER THE LGBTQ FOLKS NOR CHRISTIANS, NEITHER BLACKS NOR WHITES HAVE MORE OR LESS RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE WHO IS AN AMERICAN
I'm reminded of Arnold Schwarzenegger's phrase "GIRLIE MEN", how he used the term to call out Reagan's opponents in the 1988 presidential election, GHW Bush's opponents in 1992, again at the 2004 Republican convention, and then was brow-beaten by gay rights advocates into apologizing in 2018 for ever breathing those words...words they said was HATE SPEECH.
HATE SPEECH!
HELLO, AMERICANS! WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH!
FREE...SPEECH!
THE GUARANTEE OF FREE SPEECH IS WHY CROTCHETY OLD PEOPLE LIKE ME DON'T SLAP THOSE WHO MAKE "WAR WHOOPS" AND DO THAT "TOMAHAWK CHOP" AT SOME FOOTBALL GAMES, DON'T FACE-PUNCH THOSE WHO USE THE WORDS INDIAN/ "INJUN", DON'T LAUGH DERISIVELY AND SPIT ON THOSE WHO SCREAM, "USE ENGLISH, THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OF AMERICA!" AND DEMAND THEY SPEAK AN ALGONQUIN OR IROQUOIAN OR SIOUXAN DIALECT.
[Tongue-in-cheek: SURE, I HAVE "ANGER ISSUES", BUT I HAVE YET TO FAIL TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WITHOUT STARTING A STUPID NEW WAR HERE.
IF I CAN HANDLE IT, ANYBODY CAN.]
WE'RE ALL EVEN FREE TO CHOOSE TO BREAK THE LAWS THAT GOVERN OUR AMERICAN SOCIETY.
WHEN WE CHOOSE TO DO SO, LAW ENFORCEMENT IS FREE TO ARREST US.
THE COURTS ARE FREE TO TRY US.
JURORS ARE FREE TO CONVICT US.
PRISONS ARE FREE TO INCARCERATE US.
ALL OF US...ALL...EVERY SINGLE ONE.
EVEN PROUD BOYS.
DO I LIKE THEM?
I CAN'T HONESTLY SAY THAT I DO.
LIKE ALL OF US, THEY HAVE GOOD POINTS AND BAD, FLAWS, IMPERFECTIONS.
AND I CAN, DO, ALWAYS WILL CALL GOOD "GOOD" AND BAD "BAD" ACCORDING TO MY PERSONAL BELIEF SYSTEM.
I CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN ALL DO THAT.
FREE CHOICE.
WE ALL HAVE IT.
WE'RE EVEN FREE TO CHOOSE TO STOP BEING FREE.
FREE TO FLIP AMERICA OFF AND GO LIVE IN "BFE".
FREE TO STAY RIGHT HERE AND BE PROUD TO BE WHO WE ARE, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE.
THIS...IS...AMERICA.
To the ANONYMOUS (which is the same as COWARDLY, to me) commenter who asked me in an overloaded with obscenities attempt "What kind of #&*%@! REDNECK are you?"
ReplyDeleteYou know who you are & if you have the guts, you CAN reply to this with a pseudonym.
Hi, snookums. I'm "red" all over. My ancestors were here to watch those boats land carrying those "pilgrims".
Where did YOUR ancestors hail from?
No, I DON'T "agree with those "^#!$%&!@! supremacists" as you labeled them, and if your reading comprehension was up to an 8th grade level, you would have noticed that.
I have several links to websites that can help you improve reading comprehension that I am willing to post here for you.
If you need to discuss this with me in words of no more than 2 syllables, I can accommodate you, in 5 or 6 languages.
Other than you felt a need to malign me and the 'Proud Boys', do you have anything, anything at all that just might demonstrate how important FREE SPEECH is to you?
If you can manage a reply sans "potty mouth" (tho' some have said I am most fluent in that 'language' as well) I'd be happy to post your comment.
MY blog, MY rules.
Suck it up, buttercup.
Have a cup of Hemlock Tea?